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Post by RPankn on Apr 15, 2004 2:50:26 GMT -5
Very fascinating program and the Bush administration/Clear Channel propaganda outlet actually broadcast it.
Said story that Sudan offered bin Laden to the U.S. in 1998 was true, but Clinton administration declined offer on purpose and bin Laden was chased to Afghanistan on purpose. Said this was because major oil co.s wanted to build pipeline through Afghanistan to transport fossil fuels from former Soviet republics and U.S. government was negotiating with Taliban on behalf of major oil. Said these negotiations continued after Clinton left office through private individuals under Bush. No agreement could be reached between big oil and Taliban ("carpet of gold or carpet of bombs") so that's why U.S. went to Afghanistan first, outside of the PNAC plan to start with Iraq.
Described years and years of CIA drug trafficking and this money flowing through Wall Street.
Talked of Bush family's business connections to the bin Ladens; e.g., Carlyle Group, Harken, Arbusto, James R. Bath, etc.
Said U.S. media fails to ask tough questions of Bush because they are part, and beneficiaries, of corrupt Wall Street system. Says reporters and producers who try to tell truth end up fired and discredited.
Said Bush had foreknowledge of Sept. 11th and elements of government were involved in the plan. Said Bush made 2 big mistakes at last night's press conference: mentioned Genoa G8 summit in 2001, where he knew that al-Qaeda wanted to crash planes into building he was in to kill him, and parroted Rice and Fleischer line that administration had no idea airplanes would be used to crash into buildings; said this point was "admission of guilt." Also mentioned that Pentagon had done drill of simulating a plane crashing into Pentagon prior to Sept. 11th.
Mentions Z.B.'s "Grand Chessboard" book. Said PNAC got most of its ideas for "Rebuilding America's Defenses" from there.
Said he has clear evidence that many hijackers trained at U.S. military facilities. Said CIA had infiltrated many al-Qaeda cells and were running them independently of bin Laden. Said this is why wanted persons, who later turned out to be hijackers, were allowed in U.S.
Said master plan behind "War on Terror" is to gain control of all world's hydrocarbon resources. Said he's convinced the secrets of Sept. 11th are buried in Cheney's energy task force papers and this is why Cheney is resisting releasing them. Said Supreme Court decision is very important because if Court sides with Cheney, public will never know truth behind Sept. 11th for decades to come. Said Cheney is attempting to influence Court's decision (duck hunting trip w/ Scalia).
Said whole plan behind Sept. 11th was collusion of Bush administration, big banks and big oil. Said reason why this has been kept secret is that only a handful of people know entire plan; and parts were given to various persons to execute who had no idea others were involved or what whole plan was. Named David Fraska (ph), Ben Swiney (ph) and Carl Binderford (ph); said they were the ones behind the orders to stand down on Sept. 11th.
Said economy might collapse and oil prices might surge before presidential election; said forces behind the scenes were trying to hold these two factors steady but they may not be able to for much longer.
Said choice between Bush and Kerry was like choosing between Gambino and DiGenovese crime families. Said Kerry is pawn of big finance and big oil and will continue neo-con's "War on Terror." These interests win no matter who wins.
Said will take tens of billions of dollars and years to get Iraqi oil back to peak production. Noted only functioning pipeline in Iraq runs to Israel.
Said "War on Terror" will shift to West Africa and Venezuela after the Middle East is contained. Said he thinks Halliburton will get no bid contract to run Iraq's oil wells. Said this is because of Cheney.
Said he thinks there's very good chance U.S. will not hand over sovereignty to Iraqis on June 30. Said military will be there for a long time because we will retain control of oil fields even after sovereignty is handed over.
Mentioned his talk with Cynthia McKinney. Said Majette was Republican judge that supported Alan Keyes and stole McKinney's seat. Said McKinney has papers telling Republicans to cross party lines and vote for Majette in Democratic primary; McKinney is suing now.
Said he thinks Saudi Arabia is next after Iraq. Said either a President Kerry or President Bush will have to send troops there to contain oil fields because House of Saud on verge of collapse. Said if Saudi oil peaks before then, look out; foresees major unrest in kingdom.
Said Spain train bombing beginning of new covert and military offensive which will be centered in West Africa, specifically Morocco; reason why suspected train bombers came from there. Mentioned Kerr McGee just established oil rights in area.
Said John Negroponte big player behind Venezuelan referedum.
Thinks biological warfare and bio-WMDs could be part of plan to reduce world population because of dwindling oil resources and no available viable alternatives. Said two most viable alternate energy resources combined will still not produce enough to meet current and future world demands.
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Post by RPankn on Apr 15, 2004 3:49:44 GMT -5
Said insider trading that took place before Sept. 11th was done on worldwide scale (e.g., put option trades were placed in New York, Hong Kong, London, Berlin) and totaled anywhere from $100 million to $10 billion. Noted only American Airlines and United were only airline stocks shorted as well as insurance companies which would be responsible for compensation of Sept. 11th losses and reinsurance companies that reinsured the insurance co.s hurt by Sept. 11th. Mentioned PROMUS software. Thinks trades are 'natural result' of foreknowledge by domestic and foreign intelligence sources when it became clear Bush administration was going to allow attacks to happen.
Thinks Mossad facilitated Sept. 11th attacks; mentioned ring of Israeli 'art students' who were covert Mossad agents and were tracking hijackers' movements in U.S. Said it's still not clear who was on hijacked airplanes, won't speculate on what this is about though.
Said Tenet was lying during Sept. 11th Commission testimony yesterday. Said recent Rand Corp. study showed CIA, FBI, DIA cooperate very well in intelligence gathering and sharing and together had thwarted 40 al-Qaeda attacks. Said new meme is being spun that CIA and FBI don't cooperate or share information well; said this is a lie but didn't say why it's being done.
Called Bush administration, big bank and big oil interests fascists, in the Mousillini sense of the term.
Said 'major battle lines' are being drawn between U.S. oil interests on one side and foreign interests, like China on the other.
Mentioned Zem (ph)-Israeli Oil Co.; said moved out of WTC before Sept. 11th and broke lease to do so. Said this is one of several Israeli goverment subsidized corps. and it was warned beforehand. Mentioned Odigo instant message service and Comverse; two Israeli owned companies. Said Odigo employees were warned about Sept. 11th and Comverse does extensive wiretaps for Israeli government.
Said Sept. 11th Commission is bogus. Said every member has financial or political conflicts of interest. Said Commission is a 'dog and pony show' and don't expect truth from it.
Mentioned William Safire and another, unnamed NY Times columnist both mentioning suspension of 2004 election because of terrorist attack; finds this curious. Also mentions election may be suspended if economy collapses.
Said Wellstone and McKinney were only honest members of Congress.
Said world would be more peaceful place without corporations.
Predicts draft in 2005.
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Post by tombldr on May 3, 2004 4:20:51 GMT -5
wow, sweet summary RP. I hadn't heard, or even heard of, Ruppert's appearance on Coast to Coast. I'm going to need to bookmark their webpage with upcoming guests. Between all their new agey guests, and their mind numbing commercials, there are often gems like Ruppert, or last week's visit from Bev Harris.
Thanks again for the summary. Are you a member at FTW? is it worth it?
I'm also intrigued by Alex Jone's shtick... though Jones isn't a Peak Oil believer. But the police state the NWO/Globalists have in store for the sheeple is quite obvious, especially when you look at all the evidence gathered in one place the way Jones has done. Jones has been on C to C a couple times too.
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Post by Moses on May 5, 2004 0:07:00 GMT -5
Cool! Some expert conspiracy theorists!
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Post by RPankn on May 7, 2004 19:43:13 GMT -5
CTCAM had David Icke on last night and he was confirming a lot of what Mike Ruppert and Alex Jones have been saying, with the exception that Icke subscribes to the Illuminati/NWO theory, where Ruppert will not go there.
No, I don't subscribe to FTW, too poor here for that. But I have been thinking about Ruppert's "Beyond Bush" articles recently and one of points Icke made last night re: the shape of things to come in the remainder of the year and into next year made me think things are playing out in the direction Ruppert predicted in those articles, just not in the exact way Ruppert described (I believe Ruppert said Rice would have resigned by now and obviously that hasn't happened).
Icke said that you can always tell when the elites are ready for a change in current power, or a continuation of it, because the change will come when the party in power starts internally splintering into squabbling factions and a continuation of current power happens when the party's factions remain united. He cited Thatcher and the Tories as an example of this, but when you think about it, the same is, and has been, true with the Republicans and Democrats (what does that tell us about the DLC?).
I think Ruppert's prediction that we'll see a second Bush term is still likely correct because, while we have seen the moderate and right-leaning Democrats coalesce around Kerry, the true left -- that is, the liberal Democrats, the Greens and Socialists -- are still splintered off from the Democrats. Also note that despite the events of the past week and a half, the Republicans haven't collapsed into internal bickering, but it's starting to get there. This is why I think Ruppert is also correct in that if Bush does get a second term, he will not finish it because it seems that the Iraqi prison torture fiasco (the Pentagon) and the Plame investigation (V.P.'s office) are beginning to set the stage for the takedown of key members of this administration.
On edit: I forgot to add that, yes, CTCAM does get tedious, often irritating sometimes. Especially when they trot out people like Doug Hagmann, Steve Quayle, and the one "ex-CIA" agent they have on from time to time (can't remember his name, but he does have an unusual name) who are obvious shills for the neo-cons and Dominionists.
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Post by Moses on May 9, 2004 21:06:23 GMT -5
I don't see the Republicans splintering -- demonstrating that there aren't any with any integrity among them. What I see is the military trying to let America know that there has been an illegal coup.
Bush must have written off the military vote. He must have a means of suppressing it or miscounting it in place.
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Post by tombldr on Jun 7, 2004 22:37:19 GMT -5
Alright, I just checked the latest C to C schedule, and see MIKE RUPPERT is on Thursday night, with a couple others I'm unfamiliar with... C to C Schedule:Thursday, June 10 Stan Deyo, Jon Rappoport and Michael Ruppert will join together for a round table discussion on Secret Societies.
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Post by RPankn on Jun 8, 2004 3:24:36 GMT -5
Biography for Stan Deyo Stan Deyo has held Above Top Secret Security Clearance and worked undercover for the FBI. He was part of an exclusive "black project", headed by Dr. Edward Teller specializing in the development of "flying saucer technology". Stan's diverse background encompasses: - computer programmer of main frames in 7 languages, PC and Macintosh
- senior systems analyst
- research physicist (both formally and self-educated)
- marine architect (self-educated)
- advanced propulsion engineer for marine, air and spacecraft
- author of two books and five scientific papers
- inventor
- university lecturer in 3D computer animation and graphic art
- commercial photographer
- partner in our book publishing and distribution company for the last 25 years
- amateur archeologist in the Middle East – explored a real "Indy Jones" cave in the Qumran area of Israel
- Biblical student
- TV documentary television host for several shows on Tesla (Eye of the Storm) and a series of three highly-rated shows on Channel 9 in Perth: UFOs Are Here, UFOs Deyo and You and UFOs Are Back
- public lecturer on world events including:
The coming global economic collapse, Developing solar-related crises in the Earth's climate, The "UFO" deception and its real intent, Suppression of badly needed technologies, The coming destruction of America by civil war followed by foreign invasion, High voltage physics of "cheaper" energy, The New World Order from the perspective of a former FBI 'spy' Born in Clifton, Texas, Stan spent his first two years in nearby Valley Mills with his grandparents until his father returned from the Middle East - a US Army Air Force Base Commander in WW2. Valley Mills is just seven miles from Crawford, home to President Bush's ranch. Stan spent most of his youth in Dallas where he was a member of the National Honor Society, Captain of the rifle team, Lt. Colonel in the NDCC (ROTC), recipient of the Sons of the American Revolution Medal, and honored as one of the two most outstanding math students. After graduating high school at 16, Stan was awarded a partial engineering scholarship to the University of Texas and also was given a full congressional appointment (scholarship) to the US Air Force Academy, Colorado Springs. Upon returning to Dallas from USAFA, Stan trained in computer programming at IBM. Shortly thereafter, he formed his own "mission impossible" team solving extremely sensitive, difficult corporate computing problems. Stan's main love is still advanced propulsion and "free" energy research which took him to Australia in '71 to work on these systems with Dr. Teller's project. Currently Stan is working on a Tesla-based energy system, several propulsion projects and is the webmaster/site developer for British Berkefeld Water Filters. In 1969, Stan experienced an NDE which only strengthened his Faith, though at the time, he was not a Believer. We have met with Hopi Indian elders in Arizona twice by invitation to discuss prophecy. We have visited the restricted access FNMOC at the US Navy base in Monterey to share Stan's method of earthquake prediction. (It's based on sea surface temperature fluctuations - something Stan formulated from the Navy's own data but they had not seen this use for it.) At Air Force Space Command in Colorado Springs (now headquartered in Omaha), we met with Major Green, affectionately known as "Major Meteor" by his colleagues, to discuss the probability of meteors impacting Earth. Stan has packed more into 57 years than most folks do in two lifetimes! Stan's scientific approach is backed by extensive research. He is not motivated to make a "quick buck", nor is he trying to sell anything other than his books that are treasured by those who have them. He feels obliged to let the public know both what he sees from a scientific perspective as well as from Biblical research. As strange as this might sound, on occasion, Stan has what he calls dream/visions. They do not happen often, maybe one every few years and initially, they only involved him or the immediate family. Now his dream/visions are becoming more frequent and involve other folks, other countries. My first "proof" of his abilities was his dream/vision where he "saw" me as his wife, his partner in life, and exactly where I lived several months before we'd even met! We did, in fact, meet as a result of one of Stan's early appearances on Art Bell's radio program Coast To Coast. If you knew our details and the fact that we were living 12,000 miles apart, you'd appreciate the near-impossibility of this, but it DID come true. When Stan tells me he's "had a dream", I hold my breath, because his dream/visions have never NOT come. God graced him with a phenomenal mind that he uses to help folks, not to make us wealthy. Maybe it sounds like I make him out to be bigger than life, but of how many people can you say, "it's truly a gift knowing him..." He's kind and gentle, an idealist with a terrific sense of fun. Stan and I, and our 4-leggeds Seismo and Taco, are now back home in Pueblo County, Colorado near the Sangre de Cristo Mountains and beautiful Beulah Valley high above sea level at 6500 feet. May God bless, Holly Deyo Link: www.millennium-ark.net/bio.html I never heard him as a guest on CTC before so I really don't know if this guy is legit or if he's one of the Dominionist/neocon floozies CTC has on from time to time. That his appearance on CTC was with Art Bell doesn't say much. I really don't trust anything Art Bell says anymore -- I never really did to begin with -- but I'm thinking he's trying to push an agenda among the CTers out there because he refuses to even consider the possibility Sept. 11th was an inside job and always falls back to the neocon script. This from a man who will believe callers' stories about being implanted with mind control by aliens.
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Post by RPankn on Jun 8, 2004 3:32:39 GMT -5
BIO/JON RAPPOPORT Jon Rappoport has worked as a free-lance investigative reporter for 20 years. He has written articles on politics, health, media, culture and art for LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, Village Voice, Nexus, CBS Healthwatch, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. In 1982, the LA Weekly submitted his name for a Pulitzer prize, for his interview with the president of El Salvador University, where the military had taken over the campus. Jon has hosted, produced, and written radio programs and segments in Los Angeles and Las Vegas (KPFK, KLAV). He has appeared as a guest on over 200 radio and television programs, including ABC's Nightline, Tony Brown's Journal (PBS), and Hard Copy. In 1994, Jon ran for a seat in the US Congress from the 29th district in Los Angeles. After six months of campaigning, on a very small budget, he garnered 20 percent of the vote running against an incumbent who had occupied his seat for 20 years. In 1996, Jon started The Great Boycott, against eight corporate chemical giants: Monsanto, Dow, Du Pont, Bayer, Hoechst, Rhone-Poulenc, Imperial Chemical Industries, and Ciba-Geigy. The Boycott continues to operate today. Jon has lectured extensively all over the US on the question: Who runs the world and what can we do about it? For the last ten years, Jon has operated largely away from the mainstream because, as he puts it, "My research was not friendly to the conventional media." Over the last 30 years, Jon's independent research has encompassed such areas as: deep politics, conspiracies, alternative health, the potential of the human imagination, mind control, the medical cartel, symbology, and solutions to the takeover of the planet by hidden elites. A painter, Jon's work has been shown in galleries in Los Angeles and New York. His poetry has been published by The Massachusetts Review. 63 years old, he is a graduate of Amherst College (BA, Philosophy), and lives with his wife, Dr. Laura Thompson, in San Diego. Link: www.nomorefakenews.com/bio.htmI've heard him on CTC before, but can't remember what his deal is
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Post by RPankn on Jun 12, 2004 6:22:59 GMT -5
Alright, I just checked the latest C to C schedule, and see MIKE RUPPERT is on Thursday night, with a couple others I'm unfamiliar with... C to C Schedule:Thursday, June 10 Stan Deyo, Jon Rappoport and Michael Ruppert will join together for a round table discussion on Secret Societies. Didn't get to listen to the entire show, but from what I heard, Deyo sounds like a post-millennlialist Dominionist; it seemed each prediction of his, and his views on past events, had to fit within the prophecies of the Book of Revelations. George Noory needs to just shut up from now on. Discounted Rappoport and Ruppert's claims Sept. 11th was an inside job and could not believe the U.S. government would do something like that to its own citizens. This from a man who believes the Feds have been covering up contact with aliens since Roswell. I don't get it, either Noory and Bell are just dumb or they're pushing an agenda.
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Post by tombldr on Jun 14, 2004 17:06:04 GMT -5
I didn't get to hear the entire show either. I was on a road trip thursday night, driving through WY/UT on I-80 when the show aired. I found it on the AM radio at some time after it'd began, and heard about the last 1.5 hours, intermittently thanks to spotty reception.
I was interested in what I did hear... but I'm afraid I missed so much, I got only bits and pieces and missed the larger context. I'm tempted to join C2C's online subscription just so I can hear the archives of the few recent shows which I largely missed... and I don't mean the majority of them discussing UFOs and miracle food supplements etc.
Were there any info nuggets which stood out?
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