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Post by RPankn on Jan 9, 2006 20:18:10 GMT -5
It would be nice if AIPAC was forced to comply with the law, as it is a foreign lobbyist, and disclose who sits on its board of directors, and membership rolls, because Edmonds said the directorships and membership of these fronts for weapons and drug trafficking interlock with each other. by Necons Will Ban Me Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 01:43:31 PM PDT UPDATE: Many have pointed out that Scooter Libby has had the lucky draw of Reggie Walton to be the judge presiding over the case Patrick Fitzgerald is bringing against him. Reggie Walton is the judge that, according to Sibel Edmonds, unfairly dismissed her lawsuit against the FBI over these issues - issues that seem to implicate Libby in a series of crimes against the United States. Judge Reggie Walton seems to be the go-to guy whenever the administration gets into legal trouble. [ For Christ's sake, just say it: Walton is a dirty judge and wasn't selected by "accident."] Gagged whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has verified that a comprehensive review of her public statements has provided one particularly dedicated blogger with the most accurate picture yet of the web of corruption she has long tried to expose. i got an email from sibel edmonds the other day after she had read some of my posts about her story - basically she wanted to let me know that i was on the right track (and that virtually no-one else is). So what then is the "right track"? Evidently the American Turkish Council, AIPAC, the Usual Neocon Suspects (Feith/Perle/Wolfowitz/Libby) and specific high-ranking individuals including former Turkish ambassadors Eric Edelman and Marc Grossman are deeply involved in global arms smuggling, drug-dealing, money-laundering and black market nuclear sales to terrorists. Individuals involved in this crime nexus were instrumental in the outing of Valerie Plame in an effort to sabotage the work of CIA front Brewster Jennings - which was seen as increasingly threatening to them. The bottom line seems to be that a group of influential lobbyists, high-ranking officials and diplomats in Turkey, Israel, the United States and the 'Stans --with the neocons at the center of all of it-- are caught up in a very large, fantastically lucrative and staggeringly corrupt scheme to facilitate precisely the ills (terrorism, arms proliferation, drug smuggling) these countries all claim to want stopped. [ Are they following the Nazis, or are they following the Nazis? This is the Hegelian dialectic.] Not sure what to make of it all, but personally, I think Fitz needs to bring every last one of them in for a good long questioning. Under oath. www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/6/154331/1458
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Post by RPankn on Jan 9, 2006 21:05:41 GMT -5
When Democrats go awry:
(I don't know if it's because "cultural institutions" like the ADL, AJC, B'nai B'rith and all the other Israeli alphabet fronts have been successful in convincing people that criticism of certain Jewish people by name, or Israel and its government is "anti-semitic," or these people are just dense. But by only focusing on the Bush crime family, or the perennial favorites of Democratic gatekeepers: the House of Saud, they're denying themselves the complete picture of what has, and is, happening.)
rurallib (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-06-06 07:40 PM Response to Reply #6 9. Boy when you start connecting dots ........... - 9/11 happenned why? - Daddy with the Carlyle group - Blair joining the Carlyle group - the interest in and invasion of Iraq - Valerie Plame Doesn't look like something that had a master plan but one where having the reins of the government allows you to create diversions and do what you want without a lot of questions. No questions especially from a cowed press corp or a press that acts as cheerleaders. Doesn't Daddy keep all his money in the Caymans? (Where in the above diary at Kos, or in any of Edmonds' statements has she ever said, "look at the Bush Family money laundering channels if you want to know the secrets of Sept. 11th"?)
radfringe (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-08-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #9 42. all that is missing is an Abramoff/DeLay connection
wouldn't be surprised to see their fingers in this cookie jar too
Follow the slime...follow the money (At least someone is connecting the dots. Abramoff hosted 3 of the Sept. 11th "hijackers" on his casino boat a week before the attacks -- the "Democratic" ADL trolls have been out in force purposely trying to confuse people on this fact -- and casino boats are known fronts for all kinds of nefarious activitives, including money laundering. Abramoff is in tight with the Likud government of Israel and its partner in crime, the Russian-Israeli mafia, which runs the world's illegal pill market.)
Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Fri Jan-06-06 08:19 PM Response to Original message 12. "..an effort to sabotage the work of CIA front Brewster Jennings-which... Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 08:22 PM by Peace Patriot
...was seen as increasingly threatening to them." --from the OP
I don't want to side-track any pursuit of the Edmonds/Turkey angle on Treasongate (not that I could), but I just want to point out that the time-frame for the Plame outing, and how it was done, point to a specific trigger for the outing, and I don't think--and I don't think many others familiar with the facts think--that the publication of Wilson's article (on 7/6/03) was sufficient cause for what the Bunutses did next--that is, they called at least SIX reporters, during the week of 7/6-7/14--six journalist witnesses to treason--and performed other actions that put many top Bunutses at great risk of treason charges--in what appears to be a panic and a rush to find a patsy newsman to IMMEDIATELY out Plame. Here's the most relevant piece of the time-line:
July 7, 2003: Tony Blair is informed that David Kelly (Brits chief WMD expert) knows something more than what he was whistleblowing about to the BBC (exaggerated pre-war WMD intel on Iraq). (Hutton report.)
July 14, 2003: Plame outed (by Novak).
July 18, 2003: David Kelly found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances; his office and computers searched.
July 22, 2003: The entire CIA counter-proliferation project, Brewster-Jennings, outed (also by Novak), disabling all operations and placing all of its covert agents/contacts at risk of getting killed.
I suspect that the trigger for this series of events was the threat of exposure of a Bunutse plot to plant WMDS in Iraq, after the invasion--to be "found" by the US troops who were "hunting" for them (accompanied by Judith Miller)--and that David Kelly is the one who posed the threat of exposure of this deceitful scheme. I think what he may have found out, possibly from his connections in Iraq, is that Plame/BJ were the ones who foiled this Bunutse plot. (Or, alternatively, he himself helped foil it, by tipping off Plame/BJ--or some such scenario.)
There are many possibilities for what the Brewster-Jennings network might have been trying to uncover, or to counter (they were a counter-proliferation network--not just non-proliferation), but this one accounts the best for what was happening at the time of the outing--the fruitless "hunt" for WMDs in Iraq--for the risks the Bunutses took to disable and endanger Plame/BJ, the haste with which they did it, and the lame cover stories that were put about, and it also accounts for the panic with which the Blairites reacted to Kelly's rather mild whistleblowing statements to the BBC (it freaked them out). (Note: Kelly began whistleblowing in late May 2003. Wilson published his article on July 6, 2003.)
I tend to think that Treasongate (the Plame outing) is the coverup of the WMD-planting plot--or if not that, the coverup of something else quite specific to that time-frame and posing considerable threat of imminent exposure to the Bush junta.
Dunvegan (567 posts) Sat Jan-07-06 01:11 AM Response to Original message 25. Yes...Brewster Jennings is the key...more so than Plame alone. And WMD are the prize.
Brewster Jennings probably busted the overly confident WMD plant plot twice.
Mainly because the plotters were also the ones that created the circumstances where Iraq was a mess. Not enough US security to get away with a successful escorted mission to plant the WMDs.
RICO indeed.
Clean House...that's Congress and the White House.
Let's get enough of the bad actors out of play via inditements while making sure the House Majority Leader is a Democrat...voila...President Pelosi.
Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-07-06 02:21 AM Response to Reply #25 26. It would explain so much. Why didn't they plant WMD?
It sticks out like a sore thumb. They've done everything else despicable in their self-interest.
(Wrong, wrong and wrong. Why would they wait until after Baghdad fell to plant WMDs, if that was their intent in outing Plame? They had special ops inside Iraq long before the war started, and complete military dominance in the "no-fly zones " in the 10 years before that. Especially in the Kurdish north, which was a haven for CIA and Mossad spooks. Thus, they could have planted WMDs anytime before the war stated, to be later "discovered" by US forces as the moved in from Kuwait and the Kurdish area in the north. But they didn't. Plame and BJ were outed because they were hot on the neocon network of nuclear weapons component trafficking to countries which the PNAC slated for "regime change," which would be punishable as treason because Congress has outlawed such sales to these countries. Dammit people, go back and study what these same people were doing during Iran-Contra, because their methods never change, and quit spreading useless conspiracy theories.) greiner3 (577 posts) Sat Jan-07-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message 36. Former Turkish ambassadors Eric Edelman and Marc Grossman are deeply involved in global arms smuggling, drug-dealing, money-laundering and black market nuclear sales to terrorists.
In other words, just good ole boys out on the town having a good time! (Yes, and it should also concern people that Grossman served in the Clinton Administration as well. The actions of more than a few Democrats should give everyone pause and signal that this isn't just a Republican issue.)
Independent_Liberal (1000+ posts) Sat Jan-07-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message 37. Watergate, Iran Contra and BCCI all over again! The Bush Crime Family strikes back! (Huh? Watergate? Thanks for playing, now go back and find every story on Edmonds, and every interview she has given, and read for understanding this time. Bonus points if you read what Indira Singh has said and connect the dots with Edmonds.)
No Exit (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-08-06 11:25 AM Response to Original message 43. Many people point to collusion btw the democrat and republican parties Right?
I'm not saying they're right or wrong. I don't know. (But, reassuringly, we clearly have some democrats who do NOT collude with republicans.)
Using the above as an example, is it too farfetched to think that maybe our "good guys"--our all-Amurican terrorist-fighters, such as Bush/Cheney--are actually colluding with the people they call "terrorists"?
I don't think it's too farfetched.
So next time one feels anxious about "terror", he or she should remember that it is just possible that Bush/Cheney can actually get together with "the enemy" and plan a whole scenario which will then be put out as the latest passion play to fool the masses.
Thanks for posting this article. I went to the site and read every word. I no longer doubt that the outing of Valerie Plame was at least partly about preserving the illegal weapons/nukes trade. I also have no doubt that Cheney (and perhaps Bush as well) makes money off that trade, either directly or indirectly. Just my opinion. (Getting warmer...warmer...you're almost burning hot now.)
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