Post by Moses on May 1, 2005 19:28:24 GMT -5
Many many people have noticed that the ostensible "democratic party" discussion sites are led by those who then either engage in, or allow suspiciously neo-con style attacks on anyone who deviates from the party line of the DLC.
This post was brought to our attention as being particularly astute, and "has the number" of the DLC posters.
A subsequent post will prove this point: a post from the owner of that DLC front site: SC.
Someone finally got the DLC's number
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1756055#1756191
Hidden Stillness (80 posts) Sun May-01-05 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
60. "How Do I Hate Thee?..Let Me Count The Ways..."
God, ANOTHER hysterically abusive coordinated "I hate Democrats" DLC thread! Who are these people (check Thomas Frank's list of their corporate Republican funders)? They must have just gotten a new Phrases To Use printout, because "playing golf with old Bush" and "Democrats in Congress ran and hid" came up almost as many times as that highly offensive anti-Democratic "neo-left McGovernite" did on one of the other lastest hissy fits. Why are only "left-wing" people wrong? Oh, of course.
This is the filth that the corporate DLC has imported to the Democratic Party, and it will be here until they leave. Do you really want your throat slit this vicious and ridiculing way, every time you want to correct our collective course? They still do not understand, or care, that we do not fearfully silence ourselves and toe the line the way their Republicans do, and they never listen to the non-rich, as shown by the unfailing, single response to every single reason given by posters for their opposition to Clinton and the DLC. "Clinton Haters" "name-calling and childish pouting and the destruction of MY party" (hah! it isn't even ours!) "unable to actually respond to the argumentation" (actually?), "however, with reasoning such as you've demonstrated" "with your particular tactics" "If I hear one more person crying" "What you write sounds okay in theory, in the annals of DU" (as opposed to DLC corporate wisdom, in the real world where we would never survive) "I am just so d**ned tired of people pissing and moaning about BC playing golf with the old Bush" after no one had mentioned that odd "framing" once, but had tried to explain the severe hardship caused to the poor and middle-class people that DLCers never meet, by NAFTA, GATT (killed our jobs, whether rich DLCers like us being able to speak publicly like rich people or not) and welfare cuts. Finally, there was taunting, which they always do and then blame on everyone else, Republican-like: "Ta-ta," the original attacker sneers on one post.
"DOMA and Welfare Reform are neither as clearcut as you allege either. So far as the 'never forgive' stuff, that is your prerogative but it will cause you grief in the long run." "I fear your appreciation of the process is incomplete" (and yours is...COMPLETE??..). Asked to provide proof that Clinton was deserted by "running and hiding" Democrats during the health care bill "fight" (like Senators Harkin and Paul Simon??), we get "I watched it carefully at the time." Oh, okay.
Why are these people like this? Is this what they will do, more and more, as they lose power? Why are they never FOR the way Democrats conduct themselves? Please pay attention to the way they gang up on and attack, out of nowhere, anyone who threatens to return the Party to the mainstream, non-rich voters who need government programs and protections for their jobs. Even Lou Dobbs understands that. When they lunge at you and jump to the most overstated, attacking characterization of you that they can dream up, for even constructive criticisms you have made, then you understand the damage they will continue to do to us--deliberately. This isn't even about Clinton, as anyone paying any attention already knows. We have far too much anti-Democratic in-fighting as it is. Let's support our Democrats, and get rid of these Republican-financed groups whose job it is to destroy us.
This post was brought to our attention as being particularly astute, and "has the number" of the DLC posters.
A subsequent post will prove this point: a post from the owner of that DLC front site: SC.
Someone finally got the DLC's number
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1756055#1756191
Hidden Stillness (80 posts) Sun May-01-05 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
60. "How Do I Hate Thee?..Let Me Count The Ways..."
God, ANOTHER hysterically abusive coordinated "I hate Democrats" DLC thread! Who are these people (check Thomas Frank's list of their corporate Republican funders)? They must have just gotten a new Phrases To Use printout, because "playing golf with old Bush" and "Democrats in Congress ran and hid" came up almost as many times as that highly offensive anti-Democratic "neo-left McGovernite" did on one of the other lastest hissy fits. Why are only "left-wing" people wrong? Oh, of course.
This is the filth that the corporate DLC has imported to the Democratic Party, and it will be here until they leave. Do you really want your throat slit this vicious and ridiculing way, every time you want to correct our collective course? They still do not understand, or care, that we do not fearfully silence ourselves and toe the line the way their Republicans do, and they never listen to the non-rich, as shown by the unfailing, single response to every single reason given by posters for their opposition to Clinton and the DLC. "Clinton Haters" "name-calling and childish pouting and the destruction of MY party" (hah! it isn't even ours!) "unable to actually respond to the argumentation" (actually?), "however, with reasoning such as you've demonstrated" "with your particular tactics" "If I hear one more person crying" "What you write sounds okay in theory, in the annals of DU" (as opposed to DLC corporate wisdom, in the real world where we would never survive) "I am just so d**ned tired of people pissing and moaning about BC playing golf with the old Bush" after no one had mentioned that odd "framing" once, but had tried to explain the severe hardship caused to the poor and middle-class people that DLCers never meet, by NAFTA, GATT (killed our jobs, whether rich DLCers like us being able to speak publicly like rich people or not) and welfare cuts. Finally, there was taunting, which they always do and then blame on everyone else, Republican-like: "Ta-ta," the original attacker sneers on one post.
"DOMA and Welfare Reform are neither as clearcut as you allege either. So far as the 'never forgive' stuff, that is your prerogative but it will cause you grief in the long run." "I fear your appreciation of the process is incomplete" (and yours is...COMPLETE??..). Asked to provide proof that Clinton was deserted by "running and hiding" Democrats during the health care bill "fight" (like Senators Harkin and Paul Simon??), we get "I watched it carefully at the time." Oh, okay.
Why are these people like this? Is this what they will do, more and more, as they lose power? Why are they never FOR the way Democrats conduct themselves? Please pay attention to the way they gang up on and attack, out of nowhere, anyone who threatens to return the Party to the mainstream, non-rich voters who need government programs and protections for their jobs. Even Lou Dobbs understands that. When they lunge at you and jump to the most overstated, attacking characterization of you that they can dream up, for even constructive criticisms you have made, then you understand the damage they will continue to do to us--deliberately. This isn't even about Clinton, as anyone paying any attention already knows. We have far too much anti-Democratic in-fighting as it is. Let's support our Democrats, and get rid of these Republican-financed groups whose job it is to destroy us.