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Post by tombldr on May 3, 2004 1:12:54 GMT -5
Seems there's a few disaffected chimpsters here, I see this bbs uses the same colors, which is fine, they're easy on the eyes when you spend too much time there! I just had some email exchange with smirky, where I learn that "boloboffin" is, as I suspected, a BN droid. This is especially offensive coz I've had multiple experience with blof posting trollish flaimbait, then logging in as BN and deleting replies, and ultimately locking/deleting the thread. If that's not chickennuts I don't know what is. See the "have you heard of Michael Ruppert" thread for an example of this: www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=39186&forum=3 ; other examples are deleted altogether now. I pulled the plug on my automatic $5/month donation back in January when this very thing happened in a thread involving none other than blof, and at that time I didn't even know the whole story. Point is, I can only pull the plug on my donations once! This thread is among the latest SC boardnazi BS: www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=40016&forum=3LOL, I "previewed" this, and noticed the bbs changed the original chickensh** to "chickennuts".
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Post by calabi-yau on May 3, 2004 11:17:25 GMT -5
LOL !!
I need new reading glasses. I misread Disaffected Chimpsters for Disinfected Chimpsters.
Oh well, sounds about right too.
Welcome aboard tombldr and don't mind the bbs text editor...it just helps us to be more creative when we want to talk dirty. ;D
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Post by Moses on May 5, 2004 14:14:43 GMT -5
By Droid does this mean that Boloboffin is the same person as BN? Or that BN is a group of people? This could be a clue as to who is sponsoring the web site.
Tried to read the link but a message came up saying "message boards are temporarilly unavailable to unregistered users".
The site is clearly a front for the usual parties.
I very much regret my $50.00 donation.
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Post by RPankn on May 5, 2004 16:06:46 GMT -5
Ha ha ha...I always knew BN was a closet neo-con and I suspect many of the posters at SC agree with every word that falls from the lips of Wolfowitz. I'll have to be on the lookout for BN's alias "boloboffin" on DU, though. I noticed BN often spreads disinformation about DU on SC because I have found the moderators at DU give posters much wider latitude in discussing the hot button issues, like Israel/Palestineans, whereas BN apparently has an itchy trigger finger and will shut down a thread at the mere mention of Israel.
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Post by Moses on May 5, 2004 16:27:17 GMT -5
remember identifying boloboffin as a member of the ring. Is he the one from Idaho? I get them confused.
I suspect it is run by an entity such as a union or the Party.
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Post by POA on May 5, 2004 19:08:56 GMT -5
remember identifying boloboffin as a member of the ring. Is he the one from Idaho? I get them confused. I suspect it is run by an entity such as a union or the Party. No, the one from Idaho is Smughead1 (aka Colin Mattoon, although Cotton Oilman was a clever anagram invented by someone else).
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Post by RPankn on May 10, 2004 3:08:02 GMT -5
This is my little rant for tonight because I have noticed this from time to time on sites like SC and DU and it drives me crazy. There are too many rank-and-file Democrats out there who have no clue about the history of their party or some of the truly awful things members of the Democratic Party do and have done. And I don't think these are pary whips; I think they're just honestly naive and underinformed rank-and-file.
For instance, there was a post on a discussion board at DU that Richard Perle said he was a Democrat on C-Span. When someone pointed out that many of the neocons were at one time Democrats (I also seem to remember in the early '80s there were Democrats calling themselves 'Neoconservative Democrats') a lot of people didn't want to believe it and called it "Kerry bashing." When it was pointed out that the DLC is simply an extension of one thread of the neoconservative movement within the Democratic Party and the PPI's Middle East policy was essentially an extension of the PNAC's, but under the pretense of multilateralism, of course, this was more "Kerry bashing."
I also remember one time at SC, "dori" let a post fly that said something to the effect of Democrats being the only party that wanted campaign finance reform and wanted to get rid of the influence of big money.
I can see where it comes from; I used to think this same way when I was in grad school, and before then, and didn't have much time to really pay attention to what was going on, but just knew my side, the Democrats, was always "right" and "good." But that changed as soon as I got laid off and had more time to really read about policy and think about the implications and ramifications of what our government has really been up to. I even changed my party registration after the Florida primary after being a registered Democrat for 11 years because I realized the party no longer represented my values. I guess that's one thing I can thank Bush for, giving me the time to realize just how bad the system really is. And reading Greg Palast's book started to help filling in a lot of the blanks.
I realize that not everyone has a lot of time to keep up with everything, especially the time it takes to hunt down and read dozens of articles that come out everyday, but it just seems like too many of the rank-and-file act like the past 4 years of having to pay attention has been a huge imposition on their personal schedule, are still incredibly ignorant despite all the resources the internet makes available to them and it seems like they think that if Kerry somehow becomes president, they can go back to ignoring reality. I really wanna buy them a clue sometimes. I really don't know if there is a point to this post, but I just had to write this because I was getting annoyed tonight.
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Post by karpomrx on May 10, 2004 15:26:50 GMT -5
I cut off my $5 a month to them when they started shouting me down over Nader and what a blind fool I was to be wasting my vote. It was rare to have a response of much substance when exploring the environmental damage of a continuous growth economy, or the obvious culpability of the dems in the continued waste of a warfare state. I now regard them as more road-kill on the grand highway to the future being prepared for us all by the same monsters that have so tarnished the brightness that could be the human experience upon this planet.
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Post by calabi-yau on May 10, 2004 18:34:42 GMT -5
I now regard them as more road-kill on the grand highway to the future being prepared for us all by the same monsters that have so tarnished the brightness that could be the human experience upon this planet. Close. I have called SC ABB'rs "Kerry Appetizers"a few times over there and they never caught it. Or maybe they did and headed for the fridge instead... There are bright, good and big-hearted people at SC but sometimes, the dots just don't connect. I think they will be a sad and disoriented bunch in 2005. Maybe we will all be.
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Post by Ropegun on May 10, 2004 21:42:02 GMT -5
Some of us have our eyes open.
As for myself, mine are barely open, but my head is on a swivel.
Peace.
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Post by Jay Berner on May 22, 2004 20:58:19 GMT -5
I've lodged 21 posts over at DU and I STILL don't have private mail priveleges, which I need if I'm going to steer cool people from there to here.
Anybody with private mail over there? Quietly tell folks about us.
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Post by calabi-yau on May 24, 2004 12:40:10 GMT -5
Can I flame ? Can I bash ? TSC has just turned out a new rule. No Kerry flaming or bashing will be allowed. Posts or threads considered as such without further ado. They even had the gentle thought of including Nader as a no go, for flaming or bashing. Maybe if they gave Nader some thread time to begin with... No Kerry flaming or bashing. Take a bow everybody and shut up ! No conspiracy theories. Swallow it whole and shut up ! No skulls and bones. It's just a game rich kids play at. Now eat your din-din and shut up ! No Israeli-American connections. Is swearing in Yiddish allowed ? Shut up you Chutzpah !
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Post by Moses on May 25, 2004 0:43:52 GMT -5
It looks like they have set out to mirror the FREEPERS and the RNC. They have no respect for citizens or Democratic voters. We aren't supposed to have ideas, thoughts or opinions. They dictate to us. Clearly, this site is run by people as opposed to democracy as the neo-cons/Republicans.
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Post by POA on May 25, 2004 1:32:13 GMT -5
Can I flame ? Can I bash ? TSC has just turned out a new rule. No Kerry flaming or bashing will be allowed. Posts or threads considered as such without further ado. They even had the gentle thought of including Nader as a no go, for flaming or bashing. Maybe if they gave Nader some thread time to begin with... No Kerry flaming or bashing. Take a bow everybody and shut up ! No conspiracy theories. Swallow it whole and shut up ! No skulls and bones. It's just a game rich kids play at. Now eat your din-din and shut up ! No Israeli-American connections. Is swearing in Yiddish allowed ? Shut up you Chutzpah ! >:( >:( >:( >:( It is ironic that there is more interesting discussion about SmirkingChimp everywhere but SmirkingChimp. This is the consequence of board management that at this point is so dismally awful that it should probably considered archetypal from my perspective. The rules are selectively enforced at best: Israel-How many times has this topic been off-limits? How many times has discussion been allowed? How many times have topics been shut down from reputable sources? For ****'s sake, most of my articles when I posted there on the topic were from The Nation, Guardian, and Independent UK. It's not like I was cutting and pasting Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Do cardinal numbers go high enough to denote how many times the management has changed their minds on this point, or do I need transfinite numbers instead? "Do not insult other posters" Yeah, right-unless you're a board management favorite. I get banned from SC. Mossad-dem does things that are 10 times worse continuously and he keeps on getting away with them. This doesn't even begin to touch the whole nest of issues involved in the Kerry Gestapo. ABB-This is patently ridiculous. No discussion that bashes Kerry and it's an ABB site. Do they have the slightest clue, beyond the fact that there's more going on that needs to be watched than just Kerry/Bush, that a board that really took this rule seriously would not only lose it's informational value, but also be profoundly boring? I can just imagine the ideal conversation along these lines: "I admire Kerry" "I admire Kerry too." "I gave Kerry money" "So did I." "Isn't Kerry wonderful?" "Yes, he's exactly what I always wanted. I dreamed of Kerry prenatally." "Bow before Kerry. Kerry is our god." "It's so nice you're back. Smilies smilies smilies!" Of course, an additional side effect would be that the only issues that can ever be brought up are those that Kerry isn't complicit in, and those issues that will fit into a sound bite because that is his campaign style. This Is Not A Free Speech Area-Yes, there are going to be some limits, but we've all complained about FOX News' continuous exercises in creative truthtelling (except for our Canadian membership, and if you don't get FOX trust me you don't want it), as well as the far more recent episodes involving Sinclair and Disney. All three examples are for profit corporations. If SC is allegedly 'liberal', then what is the nature of their obligation to tolerate the presentation of other points of view that are also liberal? When I wrote Con II, it took me approximately 8 months to write it-and I consider myself lucky that not only did I find many of you who communicated your own knowledge that there was more than the next election, but I also found past references to authors who had dealt with the issue in order to help me refine my own thinking. A message board can be a great reference source (as well as a source of sanity) along those lines. In the climate that exists on that board now I would've just kept on going rather than bother with them. An edifice of lies built on top of a mound of offal.
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Post by RPankn on May 25, 2004 1:42:35 GMT -5
I have always wondered...is "laikmichel", or however he or she spells it, another BN alias?
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